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December 14, 2004

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michelle

Wasn't that part of Lily's major disappointment in Mrs. Ramsey? The heroic image shattered? God, I wrote one of my comp questions on this novel, and am considering teaching it in Intro to Fiction. better read it again!

dale

This has always been the chief pleasure of reading, for me. Travelling. Going to other times, other places, other people's heads.

I remember being astonished, when I was in grad school, by reading Harold Bloom somewhere talking about reading as *consolation*. It wasn't that I'd never heard of that before -- just that I'd never paid attention and believed it before. For the first time I realized that what I treasured about reading wasn't necessarily what other people, even people much more literate and sensitive than I, treasure most.

For me, the supreme pleasure of literature is voyaging. & a Good Book is one that takes me somewhere I've never been before, be that place good, bad, or indifferent.

With poetry, I guess the "places" are more often the characteristic moves of person's mind through the universe of language, than external places or even external "personalities," but I think it's the same thing.

So I've always been enthralled by things like Beowulf or the Kumilupo or Gilgamesh -- the farther away and longer ago, the better.

Amanda

Dale, exactly -- the "characteristic moves of a person's mind" point is how I often think of poetry. I kind of want to hook this up with the Russian formalist "defamiliarization" or "estrangement" concept but suspect that's something of a stretch.

And I think it's time to reread To the Lighthouse for me, too!

Chris

I guess I'm coming to this discussion somewhat after the fact, but I wanted to post nonetheless. I think I must be quite warped or deformed by my experience in academe because I've never felt this "pleasure" that others are speaking of in regard to reading. The "voyage out," to be overly cute, is not something I've ever *really* felt -- though I've paid my share of lip service to it when called upon to do so in one or another academic setting. And I cannot truthfully say that I have ever identified or even empathized with a literary character in the manner that seems to be implied above -- although I admit to a certain empathy toward some of Kafka's bemused but intrepid wanderers in the sometimes roiling, sometimes stock still waters of self-knowledge. But I digress. At most, when I read a literary text I feel a certain opening into the historical "episteme" of the time period. It's a complex shaping of the historical episteme, to be sure, in that one of the features of this entry is the possibility of insights into the ways human beings regarded, imagined, conceived, and though of other human beings. But this is always framed for me in historical terms. The "magic," if that's the right term, is simply lost on me, and for the most always has been.

Now I'm not sure if this is sad, or just the way it is -- or both. However, one thing I am getting from Amanda's post is an insight into why my former students (I quit, or was unceremoneously dumped from academe) resisted so much of what I had to say, and often disliked me so. Hmm. Makes me wonder, yet again, what the 'f' is wrong with me.

In any case, thank you for such a thoughtful entry.

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