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January 29, 2005

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bitchphd

I'm married with a kid, and yet I find that my experience of academe is the same. I, too, am lonely and feel isolated. What you say about office culture is really encouraging, b/c I'm thinking of leaving, and one of the things I'm hoping for is that office culture--the one pre-grad school job I had was lame, but talking and hanging out with the people in the office was cool. It always seems to me that the secretaries in my department are the best people to talk to, in part because they do talk.

timna

Seems to depend on the department and on the colleagues. I'm finding good friends among the ws folks even though I've been adjuncting for years in English. However, our social life is the Israeli post-doc/phd/fellowship/sabbatical folk, just as it was in grad school. I imagine that others have communities linked to their interests (yoga? biking? church? habitat for humanity) whatever? I'm really not sure.

Rana

I agree with timna -- it does depend on the department.

I would be wary of glorifying the friendliness of "office culture," btw. I get along quite well with most of the people here, and we laugh and tease each other a lot -- but only at work. A few people are friends outside the office too, but most of us go home at the end of the day and have nothing to do with each other until the next work day.

I compare this to my experiences with various academic departments, and I'd say that I found the social dynamics there far more satisfying. We had more things in common, there were more people my age who weren't already married parents, and the idea of moving hallway socializing off-campus appealed to many of them. The one exception was my quasi-adjunct job in a major metropolitan area, where most of the people ignored me during the day, so their ignoring me after hours wasn't surprising. By contrast, the best social environment was in a small town, where faculty went out of their way to forge personal connections off-campus as well as on.

I've never been very good at using activities as springboards for friendships - I envy those who can manage it.

Daniel Lemire

My thinking has always been that if you sacrifice everything to your job, then you should not be surprised if you end up at 55 or 65, alone in a house with only a cat and nobody calling you.

Read the rest at:
http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2005/02/19/loneliness-in-academia/

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